View Full Version : The hart family vs The guerrero family
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 06:24 PM
both strong families with many similarities that are still strong today so wich one was the stronger wrestling family? lets debate
Trixie Dominatrix
04-10-2007, 06:31 PM
Hart family, there's so many of them and they had a lot of great wrestlers that are still around. Much of the guerrero family has either had their time, retired or arent doing much, no offense.
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 06:39 PM
im going to say with the guerrero family cause they were maxico's first family of wrestling and right now hector is a proud member of the tna community and chavo is still going strong chavo senior was a former wrestling champion himself eddie was of course wwe champ and of course eddies fathers legacy and sadly both familys had someone in the prime of there carrers past away to soon but i believe that the guerrero family really paved the way for hispanics in wrestling
chanandler20
04-10-2007, 06:55 PM
Just because the guy is part of TNA doesn't mean anything. I'll easily pick the Hart family because overall they were better. The Hart family had more great wrestlers than the Guerrero family. The Harts had Owen and Bret as their top guy while, the Guerreros had Eddie. Sure Chavo is good, and so are the other but they're not great like Eddie. Also the Harts have Harry, who could be good.
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 06:59 PM
Just because the guy is part of TNA doesn't mean anything. I'll easily pick the Hart family because overall they were better. The Hart family had more great wrestlers than the Guerrero family. The Harts had Owen and Bret as their top guy while, the Guerreros had Eddie. Sure Chavo is good, and so are the other but they're not great like Eddie. Also the Harts have Harry, who could be good.
yeah but the guerreros paved the way for hispanics in wrestling they were mexicos first family of wrestling and that gives them alot of points
CovertFlight
04-10-2007, 07:04 PM
Hart family all the way, Brett's father is probably the best submission wrestler of all time and the whole family produced excellent wrestlers.
chanandler20
04-10-2007, 07:04 PM
yeah but the guerreros paved the way for hispanics in wrestling they were mexicos first family of wrestling and that gives them alot of points
that doesn't mean shit. ability wise Harts > Guerreros, and if you're saying they paved the way for hispanics in wrestling then they're not Mexico's first family...because then they're U.S.A's first Mexican-American family, you idiot.
bawjustice
04-10-2007, 07:11 PM
the harts take this one
chavo senior still wrestles from tiem to time i believe. but if you compare the families member by member they just dont match up.
the big star
eddie vs. bret
id personally take eddie over bret because i really enjoy comedy in wrestling. both were good technical wrestlers and both became big stars but eddie neer hit the level that bret did.i feel he could of but he died young and its somethign well never know. im not surprised that people would take bret over eddie.
the the younger one
owen vs. chavo jr.
i think chavo has peaked and wont achieve much more than his current cw tittle in the future. owen was a rising starand many people feel eh could have one day been a heavywieght champ. i actually liked owen more than bret.
the old timer
chavo sr vs. stu hart
chavo sr is a big name in some places but stu hart is from a truly bad ass era of wrestling. stu was able to shoot. if you wanted to be on a show or get into a promotion back then you and the promoter would go into a ring or a gym or someplace were you were alone and the two of you would shoot to decide your future. also stu has trained soem fo the best that wrestlings ever seen.
the others
the other harts floating through the indys today are comparable to the other guereros goin through the indys back in the day. this oens kind of a tie.
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 07:11 PM
eddies father was also a great wrestler and promoter and they just like the harts are associated with many wrestlers ex: pillman ,benoit, jim neidhart, the guerreros were associated with many mexican legends from the triple A promotion who are mexican legends today and are inspirations for hispanics in wrestling
chanandler20
04-10-2007, 07:15 PM
the old timer
chavo sr vs. stu hart
chavo sr is a big name in some places but stu hart is from a truly bad ass era of wrestling. stu was able to shoot. if you wanted to be on a show or get into a promotion back then you and the promoter would go into a ring or a gym or someplace were you were alone and the two of you would shoot to decide your future. also stu has trained soem fo the best that wrestlings ever seen.
Are you fucking serious??? You chose Chavo Sr. over Gory Guerrero??? Wow....
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 07:18 PM
think he tought chavo sr. was eddies father wich is in fact his brother
chanandler20
04-10-2007, 07:22 PM
think he tought chavo sr. was eddies father wich is in fact his brother
doesn't matter...those mistakes should never be made.
bawjustice
04-10-2007, 07:23 PM
the harts paved the way for canadians
they also trained a number of canadian stars who are all amazing wrestlers
lance storm, chris jericho, edge , christian, chris benoit, niedhart, all the harts, tj wilson, harry smith, DBS and plenty of others.
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 07:31 PM
the harts paved the way for canadians
they also trained a number of canadian stars who are all amazing wrestlers
lance storm, chris jericho, edge , christian, chris benoit, niedhart, all the harts, tj wilson, harry smith, DBS and plenty of others.
true and i respect that but just like the harts the guereros were a big part of helping the triple A promotion gory wrestled with el octagon , el santo and eddie and chavo wrestled with them as well, wich produced great luchadors in the u.s such as rey mysterio , psicosis, juventud, l.a parka and konnan
chanandler20
04-10-2007, 07:34 PM
true and i respect that but just like the harts the guereros were a big part of helping the triple A promotion gory wrestled with el octagon , el santo and eddie and chavo wrestled with them as well, wich produced great luchadors in the u.s such as rey mysterio , psicosis, juventud, l.a parka and konnan
Gory never wrestled in Triple A idiot. He wrestled in CMLL. Learn your shit before posting, and Konnan was never a great wrestler.
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 07:37 PM
ohh my bad i forgot what im watching on saturday on channel 47 i keep getting the cmll and triple a mixed up but the guerreros were the founding fatheres in hispanic wrestling
Sea Serpent
04-10-2007, 07:43 PM
Gory never wrestled in Triple A idiot. He wrestled in CMLL. Learn your shit before posting, and Konnan was never a great wrestler.
I disagree. Maybe not so much anymore, but I enjoy some older matches.
chanandler20
04-10-2007, 07:44 PM
Konnan was good at best. The only thing he really had was his mic skills and that was it.
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 07:49 PM
the guerreros were a driving force in the mexico and hispanic community and the guerreros maybe slowing down lately the guerreros only have vickie and chavo the harts have harry and nattie to keep the family legacys going and hector is still doing pretty good
chanandler20
04-10-2007, 07:52 PM
the guerreros were a driving force in the mexico and hispanic community and the guerreros maybe slowing down lately the guerreros only have vickie and chavo the harts have harry and nattie to keep the family legacys going and hector is still doing pretty good
Just stop posting. Some of your post don't make any scense and some just suck. Seriously just stop.
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 07:56 PM
^^^
the guerreos were just as good as the harts even better just cause the harts made a bigger impact on the wwe the guerreros made a big impact on wwe and mexico they were huge in mexico the u.s isnt the only country that produces wrestling you idiot
Sea Serpent
04-10-2007, 08:00 PM
Konnan was good at best. The only thing he really had was his mic skills and that was it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEwKWE2qJO4
Not the best example, but also not bad if you ask me. He was a lot more athletic.
chanandler20
04-10-2007, 08:00 PM
the Harts not only made an impact on the WWE, but they made an impact on the world. Bret Hart is known as one of, if not...the best wrestler ever to live. the reason your posts suck are because you suck at grammar. Learn to type and then come back, idiot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEwKWE2qJO4
Not the best example, but also not bad if you ask me. He was a lot more athletic.
He did nothing great....just some generic lucha libre moves by Konnan
The Reaper
04-10-2007, 08:10 PM
as much as i like the Guerrero's,the Hart's are just head and shoulders better then the Guerrero's.....and thats all that needs to be said
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 08:10 PM
eddie guerrero is just as good as bret hart
The Reaper
04-10-2007, 08:15 PM
eddie guerrero is just as good as bret hart
sure eddie was a great wrestler and everything but u cant compare breat hart to eddie guererro thats like saying chavo is as good as kurt angle hes just not.....sure hes not bad but hes not as good as him.....the same gose for eddie guererro and bret hart.....eddies good, but not as good...
Sea Serpent
04-10-2007, 08:16 PM
He did nothing great....just some generic lucha libre moves by Konnan
Those are the best ones!!! :lol:
Yeah, I know it's not great, but like I said, it wasn't the best example. It was just to show how he was more athletic. He's had good matches in Triplemania, and of course he's not a top list legend wrestling-wise. By the way, do you still see him wrestle since you casualy watch AAA?
But wait, what am I saying? This is a Hart/Guerrero thread... Whoops.
chanandler20
04-10-2007, 08:18 PM
I've seen some Triple A recently, but all he's done is talk because he's in his wheelchair.
5150 Militant Thug
04-10-2007, 08:21 PM
sure eddie was a great wrestler and everything but u cant compare breat hart to eddie guererro thats like saying chavo is as good as kurt angle hes just not.....sure hes not bad but hes not as good as him.....the same gose for eddie guererro and bret hart.....eddies good, but not as good...
eddie is a legend of wrestling, the driving force in a great wrestling family, a wwe hall of famer and you saying that hes not bad
carlito is not bad benjamin is not bad eddie is a freakin legend
The Reaper
04-10-2007, 08:28 PM
eddie is a legend of wrestling, the driving force in a great wrestling family, a wwe hall of famer and you saying that hes not bad
carlito is not bad benjamin is not bad eddie is a freakin legend
first of all hes a legend just because he die...sure eddie was a great wrestler and everything but hes not as good as bret hart is...meaning hes ok next to bret hart or a little above ok but not in bret hart level of wrestling..... but hes better then alot of wrestlers on the current roster...and in the hall of fame....but one of them is not bret hart...and that for sure
The Reaper
04-10-2007, 08:32 PM
sure eddie was a great wrestler and everything but u cant compare breat hart to eddie guererro thats like saying chavo is as good as kurt angle hes just not.....sure hes not bad but hes not as good as him.....the same gose for eddie guererro and bret hart.....eddies good, but not as good...
u misunderstood the bold letters was talkin about chavo and angle being compared to eddie and bret....nutting say that eddie is not bad...just that chavo is not bad....but not as good as angle
Sea Serpent
04-10-2007, 08:32 PM
Kurt Angle called Eddie the greatest wrestler to ever live.
But whatever, I like both families.
The Reaper
04-10-2007, 08:37 PM
i like both family's to but when you look at a match on paper the gurerro family vs the hart family....not the whole family just the best 4 from both family in perfect condition to wrestle....and eddie back from the grave...IMO i would think the gurreros dont stand a chance....sure there good but they kant take on possibly the 4 bets submissioners in wrestling history...even though the gurerros have great lucha libra skills and stuff they still wont be able to take on the hart.....but thats IMO
HBK_Can_Blow_Me
04-10-2007, 10:01 PM
Guerrero's easily.
The harts were a bunch of fags
bawjustice
04-10-2007, 10:08 PM
Kurt Angle called Eddie the greatest wrestler to ever live.
But whatever, I like both families.
kurt angle has said soem rediculous shit. not that eddies a bad wrestler. its just that kurt angle is someone whos word isnt the best
Hades
04-10-2007, 11:07 PM
Posted by HBK_Can_Blow_Me
Guerrero's easily.
The harts were a bunch of fags
What's a no nothing nobody like you even doing on this forum. The name you are going by pretty much somes up where I believe your intelligence is. Non-existent. Get your head out of your ass and don't post stuff like this when you know it is going to rile most people up. I can tell you only do it to piss people off.
Damn newbies.
Sorry people, I don't normally go off like that. I just hate when people say stuff like that about something they have no idea about. It pisses me off.
I say the Hart's. Not only for the family members but all the other great superstars they gave us like Lance Storm, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Edge, Christian, Bad News Brown, British Bulldog, Brian Pillman, etc, etc.
Philip81
04-10-2007, 11:42 PM
Guerrero because I REALLY hate the Hart family but the Guerrero family is great. Gory is a great wrestler and wrestling teacher and Eddie could even do a bodyslam when he was 3.
Kurt Angle called Eddie the greatest wrestler to ever live.
But whatever, I like both families.
I believe I've also heard Kurt say that about Bret and that if he could have a match w/ anyone it would be Bret. But I know he did say that about Eddie as well, wow Kurt contradicting himself - how strange.
UTisNUM1
04-11-2007, 03:36 PM
The Harts. They all have wrestling in their blood, like the Guerreros but just because the Guerreros "Paved" the way for Mexicans in the US doesnt mean that are better.
Stu Hart > All the Guerreros, not by much but he is. He can tear you down into a little girl in the ring and knock you out because if yuo watch some of the stuff he did, the guy could go on forever.
Bret > Eddie. Eddie was more of the entertainer but Bret surpassed Eddie in wrestling ability.
CapFan
04-12-2007, 08:10 PM
Kurt Angle called Eddie the greatest wrestler to ever live.
But whatever, I like both families.
Kurt Angle also said that Samoa Joe can run a 4.4-second 40-meter dash, and that he (Kurt) took upwards of 60 Vicodin a day. He tends to exaggerate.
you cant really compare the families in wrestling ability because they both have very different wrestling styles and were trained differently
geurreros were more-so lucha libres, and high flyers
harts were brawlers/submission wrestlers
i mean stu hart was a great wrestler and raised a great wrestling famaly but
gory guerrero/chavo sr. were also great wrestlers
the harts will dominate the wrestling world because they are such a big family and have another generation of wrestling coming into the buisness and are very skilled
the guererros (not totally sure) dont have any other wrestlers to continue the legacy
but from what ive seen i think the harts are better, i like eddie more than bret myself
BR549
04-12-2007, 11:55 PM
Harts
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