Lance Storm on : "Diva Respect"

[wwefan22]

This is from his site Stormwrestling.com.......


Diva Respect
January 1, 2007

I figured for tough talk this week I would talk about the WWE Divas and the lack of respect these girls get week after week. In the weekly “Random TV Thoughts” section of my web site I commented on a quote by Michael Cole on Smack Down. The quote was (this may not be exact but should be close enough): “I Love watching the Diva matches, for all the technical maneuvers." I commented that this was a completely absurd statement especially on a show with the likes of Benoit, and Finlay.

It was later pointed out to me that this comments was made tongue and cheek and was meant to be sarcastic. I completely missed this watching the show, which is either a sad statement about the attention I pay watching the show or Cole’s delivery. I watched the Diva’s match again more carefully and Cole was definitely being sarcastic, which as I thought about it made the quote even worse.

Instead of just saying something stupid as I first though, he is in fact completely disrespecting the Divas and telling the viewing audience these girls have absolutely no skill and offer nothing but some nice “T”s and “A”s to look at. Both Cole and JBL completely ignored everything the Divas did and talked only about how nice they were to look at and how they could careless what they were doing as long as they were out there for our ogling pleasure.

This is very sad. I will be the first to admit that the match in questions was not a great one, but the fact remains that all 4 girls in this match were trying very hard and put it a strong effort. Of the 4 girls in the match I only know Jillian Hall and I can guarantee you she is a damn good worker and an amazing athlete. John disrespecting them doesn’t bother me as much since he’s busted his ass in the ring before, not to mention is the heel at the desk, but Cole is supposed to be a baby face not to mention that fact that there are a bunch of WWE Divas who are likely tougher and certainly better workers than he is.

Let’s take a look at just some of the Divas and the Technical Maneuvers and Athleticism they have provided us over the years, despite Cole’s “Tongue and cheek” insistence that they have none. Jillian Hall (Round off Back Handspring into an Elbow in the corner, Round off Elbow drop in the ring, and a Top Rope Hurricanrana (not sure she’s done it in WWE but she did in OVW)). Molly Holly (The Molly-Go-Round (She did it of Big Show’s shoulders once even), Victoria (The Spider Web, Standing Moonsault, Slingshot Front Flip Leg Drop). Can’t forget Lita (Moonsault, Tope, Top Rope Hurricanrana). Not to mention Trish Stratus (I don’t know what half the stuff she did was called but she did a TON of amazing stuff with “Status” in the name. (LOL)) not to mention she’s taken bumps I wouldn’t want to take). I’ve skipped a bunch of stuff as well as a bunch of Divas but I think that makes my point.

The have also taken a ton of bumps and bruises and kept on performing. We talk so much about all the injuries us guys take but never give the ladies credit for theirs. I saw Tylene Buck (Major Gunns) take a botched backhands spring elbow where the girl giving it was too close and instead of getting her feet around to the matt she kicked Tylene right in the chest in full revolution. All the guys there at the time winced in pain just watching the impact. Tylene didn’t even leave the ring; she stood her ground toughed it out and finished putting the match together (yah it wasn’t even in front of a crowd it was during practice). Ashley broke her leg in a Battle Royal, and came back. Marie broke her forearm, and kept working. I saw Mickie James get busted open hard-way from an elbow to the head, on an OVW house show, and she kept going and never complained, Victoria injured her knee (I think an ACL tear), was advised to have surgery and she opted to wear that huge knee brace and keep working. Trish broke her nose on an international tour and didn’t even considering missing a show. Remember that ugly shoulder separation? Trish was at TV the next day. How about Lita who broke her neck and came back, and one thing a lot of people don’t realize is that of all the broken necks and neck surgeries in WWE I believe hers was the most severe.

The point of this commentary isn’t that the WWE Divas are great workers, although some of them VERY MUCH ARE, but that they deserve respect. Anyone one who steps in that ring on a regular basis and puts forth an honest effort deserves some respect. Are these girls hot? YES! Is there a certain of T and A element to their job? Absolutely, but the fact remains that the vast majority of these girls work very hard, take a lot of physical abuse, and quit often have pretty good matches and now that Trish and Lita are gone, NEVER given credit for it, and I think that is a shame.

Some of my best times in this business were working with and helping train the Divas. I had the privilege of working with Trish Stratus, Victoria, Molly Holly, Gail Kim, and Jazz, back in the hey day of the women’s division, and also got to work with Jillian Hall, Mickey James, Michelle McCool, and Melina in OVW. All of these girls are great athletes, worked as hard, if not harder than the guys, and love this business. They have my respect, deserve your respect, and if Michael Cole (or whoever is feeding him those ignorant comments) got in the ring and tried to do half what these girls do on a regular basis, might be shown more respect on TV as well.

That my rant for this week, Happy New Year everyone.
Lance Storm


What is your opinion. I kinda have mixed feelings B/C I think Lance Storm is completly right but I think Cole was just sick of how lame the division has been as of late, Especially with people like Ashley & Kristal in the ring who should'nt be.

[Frannie]

Lance Storm is right, i love this man for that.

i noticed that when the women wrestle they mainly talk about there looks and not there in ring skill. they need to show some of the diva like Jillian and Victoria the respect they deserve. there is nothing for Jillian on RAW shes the only one who can wrestle the others are all Diva Searchers. if i was her i would be insulted and i bet she is. Jillian is on SD to make divas like Ashley look better in the ring. if she went to RAW then Ashley would have no one who can make her look good.

the division is screwed now cos of T and A.

[HSM]

I completely agree with Lance on this, even his comments on the match from SD!

Now I am someone who can be extremely critical of wrestlers, men and women, and I am someone who does not look at the fact that they are trying their best to improve and perform for the audience, which I know is wrong, but some people are way to over-zealous with their comments that it's very disrespectful, and at times I do the samething, but again I am admitting it

Now to the match in question, it had to be one of the worst diva tag matches since the infamous Jackie Gayda botchfest a few years back, but I will now at least give them credit for trying their best and putting in as much effort as they possibly could, which I will say again, I hardly ever give them that credit

Now with that said, Lance did open my eyes to giving credit were it is due, although it is fine to be critical of the wrestlers performance we also have to be open minded about how hard they are working to entertain the fans when they are working in the ring
The girls like Ashley and Krystal are not anywhere near the talent as Victoria, Mickie, or Jillian Hall, but they are putting just as much effort in as the others, and we ALL should respect that

[UTisNUM1]

Tough Shit is all i have to say. If he doesnt like it, he doesnt have to watch it.

[Trixie Dominatrix]

I still dont like some of the divas because I feel that some arent really here for the business itself. But Lance is right they do deserve respect and credit for going out there every night and taking just as bad as bumps as the guys.

Lance is truely one of the greats.

[Violet]

Lance Storm can kiss my ass. Those divas apart from Jillian don't deserve any credit or respect what so ever. I will be damned if i will ever respect those whores. It is because of them that the women's divsion isn't taken seriously anymore. It is because of them that all the real female wrestlers have left or have been fired and it is because of them i stand little chance in ever being in the WWE. For that, i will never forgive them.

Cole is an asskisser for sure. But i agree with what he said.

[Frannie]

ino wot u mean Violet i dont respect them either...i ment that the good Divas deserve respect.

[Violet]

^Yeah of course i respect the others. Everyone else does. Cole said nothing wrong. He was refering to Ashley, Layla and Kristal (who are all diva search whores) so therefore i agree with him.

The only reason these whores are 'trying' to learn to 'wrestle' is because they can't draw attention any other way. I remember reading an article on Christy Hemme, back when she won the diva search. She wanted a role like Stacy Keibler, to come on every now and then and do things like she did. Well it worked for Stacy (who is no doubt absolutely beautiful) but it failed for the other skank. So she decided she'd learn to wrestle so she'd get the attention that Lita and Trish got. Still...that didn't work.

I remember when i was watching Raw last night, the crowd reaction that Melina and Maria recieved was dead, but they came alive when Mickie and Victoria started at each other. Because that is what people want. I don't know how those fat slobs in the production team can't see that.

[RMLegend]

^its not the divas faults they got the jobs and now that they have the job they better try and learn to wrestle

[Violet]

Not their fault? I'm pretty sure they were the one's that signed their contracts.

[Juan Miguels]

The business needs more analogies by wrestling legends like Lance Storm. He knows what good wrestling is and should be.

[Matt]

Again and again Lance Storm proves with these articles that Lance Storm > Everyone else. Lance's articles are always great reads and this is no exception.



Lance Storm can kiss my ass. Those divas apart from Jillian don't deserve any credit or respect what so ever. I will be damned if i will ever respect those whores. It is because of them that the women's divsion isn't taken seriously anymore. It is because of them that all the real female wrestlers have left or have been fired and it is because of them i stand little chance in ever being in the WWE. For that, i will never forgive them.

Cole is an asskisser for sure. But i agree with what he said.

May I ask why you say divas like Ashley don't deserve any credit when you have Torrie in your sig and avatar? Torrie is worse than Ashley. In Ashley's year and a half she's made an honest attempt to wrestle, Torrie's been in the business, what, 7 years? And she's just now trying to improve in the ring? Therefore, more credt goes to Ashley in my book, granted both aren't all that great in the ring.

But to get back on topic, they do deserve respect, as he said they have put their bodies on the line just as much as Lita and Trish have.

[HSM]

You are right Matt_Metal, like Lance said and like I tried to convey in my first post, no matter how bad they are they deserve respect for the effort they put in when they are in actual matches, not to be called posers and whores by people who don't know them

[Matt]

^Yep, as you said, sometimes we just don't look at the fact that they are trying. I'm very critical too, as is everyone, but you just have respect that they do go out there, and that they do try, hell, even Kelly Kelly who made an honest attempt at D2D, it might not have been a good performance, but she tried.

[RMLegend]

Not their fault? I'm pretty sure they were the one's that signed their contracts.

o so let me get this straight if you were offered a WWE contract you wouldnt sign it

[Violet]

This is going to be hard to explain to a bunch of guys. I guess try putting yourself in my shoes. How would you like it if the WWE hired a bunch of male underwear models and had them in matches and making a joke out of themselves and the division. You'd probably be saying the same things about them as what you are to Goldberg over in the other threads. You wouldn't like it. I don't like these diva search skanks because they are making women look like sex objects that can't do anything expect dance around a pole. Which is untrue! All the girls here feel the same way and nothing is going to change the way we feel about it, until something is done about it. I have learnt to accept the fact that these whores ain't going to go away for some time, but that doesn't mean i should learn to like them and give them credit. The only reason they're becoming wrestlers is because the WWE fired all their female talents so they're probably going to pay these skanks extra to learn a few moves. They can't recieve the crowd reactions like Lita and Trish did and never will. There are girls out there that can/will do that. Vince just has to find them, rather then be a lazy ass and give into T&A.

[HSM]

Yet again you call them whores, but in the stereotypes thread you made you said "labels are for jars", yet you are doing the samething by LABELING them as whores when you don't know them personally, which is hypocritical

And to not give them credit for the effort they put in, no matter their talent, is just wrong, I give Goldberg credit for at least trying but he sucks like Cena and the steroid freak Batista that I also will give credit to for trying their hardest to entertain the crowd and for the bumps they take

[Violet]

They do dress like whores though. Paris Hilton dresses better then most of them, and that’s saying something.

I give credit to women like Trish, Lita and Victoria who have had multiply injuries, but it never stopped them. Trish broke her nose, but continued to wrestle. Candice has been out for like a month now after breaking her's right? You can give those ‘washed up bikini models’ credit if you want, that’s fine. But I don’t, won't and never will.

While you agree with Lance, I agree with Victoria.

[knocks]

I agree with everything the Lance said.

[Frannie]

Torrie Wilson has shown real commitment to the company she can wrestle she is hardly given the chance. she didnt have to win a compertition were ya dance in ya underwear and have water fights she got in the WWE on her own.

Layla El has learnt more in ring skill than ashle and she looks alot better. Ashley wants to be a wrestler to little to late for alot of girls now. i think i will die if i see another Bikini,underwear, santas little helper, fancy dress comp on SD.

they get more airtime than the actual wrestlers its anoying

[Lacie]

I don't respect someone who can go to the ring in minimal clothing - botch a few punches, fail to land correctly when thrown over the top rope, making women look like sex objects and disgracing a division that had the likes of The Fabulous Moolah, Lita, Chyna, Trish Stratus, Ivory, and many other great talents. If it was in their Diva search contract requiring them to learn how to wrestler for 6 months to a year, I would be fine with the whole 'diva search' aspect of the WWE, but that is highly unlikely...

[Violet]

Torrie didn't eat hotdogs and play musical chairs to get her WWE contract.

[Rhiarna]

I don't respect a bunch of skanks that don't give a damn about the business apart from their pay checks and fame. Trish improved more in her first year of wrestling then Ashley, Candice etc. Because of them, beautiful, devoted women like my friend Violet won't likely get in because she's anti- T&A. Vince is really going to regret it.

[Frannie]

Torrie didn't eat hotdogs and play musical chairs to get her WWE contract.

exactly. she is in the WWE because she loves the WWE.

[Dsmith]

I'm not saying all but there is quite a few woman in WWE who are only there just to be involved with playboy or films and don't give two fucks about the wrestling business. Thats why woman like candice michelle don't deserve to be in the business

[UTisNUM1]

Bottom Line
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If the Divas are going to walk around like sluts, barley wearing anything, then they deserve the treatment they are getting.

[Frannie]

Bottom Line
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If the Divas are going to walk around like sluts, barley wearing anything, then they deserve the treatment they are getting.

not all of them are thou. i want the WWE to notice the real talented women in the company instead of worring about Ashley in Playboy. i dont think today ex Divas like Molly Holly would be hired and im really disgusted by that.

[Hitman]

If these divas want to be taken seriously than they need to improve their wrestling skills. All this hair pulling and screaming is pathetic. Ive seen girls go at it in nightclubs put on a better show than some of these divas.

[RMLegend]

Yet again you call them whores, but in the stereotypes thread you made you said "labels are for jars", yet you are doing the samething by LABELING them as whores when you don't know them personally, which is hypocritical

And to not give them credit for the effort they put in, no matter their talent, is just wrong, I give Goldberg credit for at least trying but he sucks like Cena and the steroid freak Batista that I also will give credit to for trying their hardest to entertain the crowd and for the bumps they take

yes thank you some one that can see the light

[Dsmith]

They can't recieve the crowd reactions like Lita and Trish did and never will. There are girls out there that can/will do that. Vince just has to find them, rather then be a lazy ass and give into T&A.

But Trish had minus talent when she first came into WWE and she got over with the crowd, when she managed those two no talent freaks.

[Frannie]

But Trish had minus talent when she first came into WWE and she got over with the crowd, when she managed those two no talent freaks.

Trish was a manager at first she hardly wrestled, these Divas wrestle and make a show of themselfs. Trish trained really hard and was good in the ring eventually. she never acted like somebody she wasnt she knew in the beginning she couldnt wrestle. she learnt and earned her respect in the WWE. she got over with the crowd because she was involved in great storylines and she worked her butt of for the company. she wasnt completly over with the fans in the beginning.

[Ben]

Ha, Dsmith thinks T and A were no talent freaks. Funny, funny stuff.

[Dsmith]

Ha, Dsmith thinks T and A were no talent freaks. Funny, funny stuff.

so you think Test has talent....ooh wait i do but it is very low, same as A-train or albert as he was known then

[HSM]

Torrie didn't eat hotdogs and play musical chairs to get her WWE contract.

You are right, but she was just a bikini model when she was hired by WCW, and had no knowledge of the business, so she is exactly the same as all the other bikini models the WWE are hiring now

[Ben]

so you think Test has talent....ooh wait i do but it is very low, same as A-train or albert as he was known then

YOU FOOL! Go watch Alber in Japan, you fool!

Test was decent back then, now he is awful. You fool!

[Dsmith]

You are right, but she was just a bikini model when she was hired by WCW, and had no knowledge of the business, so she is exactly the same as all the other bikini models the WWE are hiring now

Yeah and i still think she only came in WWE to try and get in playboy becuase she has not improved her in ring skills much

[Frannie]

Yeah and i still think she only came in WWE to try and get in playboy becuase she has not improved her in ring skills much

if she only wanted to get in Playboy why is she still here today??

she actually knows the history of this company and has respect for it. shes worked hard for the WWE. Amy was a clear example of why i hate Diva Seaches they dont have a clue about anything in this company. they think im hot who cares bout anything else.

Torrie is good in the ring she is just never given the chance because she is used to put other Divas over. If Ashley becomes Womens champ b4 Torrie i would be shocked.

You are right, but she was just a bikini model when she was hired by WCW, and had no knowledge of the business, so she is exactly the same as all the other bikini models the WWE are hiring now

she did have knowledge of the company iv seen her Bio.

[Ben]

She was pretty clueless in the Dubya C Dubya

[HSM]

She was pretty clueless in the Dubya C Dubya

Exactly, she was only hired because she was a hot bikini model, and it's the same reason she was hired by WWE because at the time she had absolutely no idea how to work in the ring, and it took her 5 years to get the slightest bit of wrestling ability since

[Ben]

Lol, do any of you remember this?

I believe the match was Torrie and Hurricane Helms against Matt Hartdy and Lita. And Torrie was mean to kick Matt in the balls as he set up for the Twist of Fate on Helms. When he had it all set up she just stood there and looked at him for nearly 10 seconds, then finally kicked him in the nuts. Then ran away.

[Matt]

Exactly, she was only hired because she was a hot bikini model, and it's the same reason she was hired by WWE because at the time she had absolutely no idea how to work in the ring, and it took her 5 years to get the slightest bit of wrestling ability since

Yep, all in all, Torrie Wilson was WCW's Ashley Massaro, well, so was Stacy in a way, but you get the point. And really, Torrie's extremely sloppy in the ring, and is far from 'good'. I wouldn't say she's much better than Ashley or Candice right now.

[CovertFlight]

I remember when i was watching Raw last night, the crowd reaction that Melina and Maria recieved was dead, but they came alive when Mickie and Victoria started at each other. Because that is what people want. I don't know how those fat slobs in the production team can't see that.

Yea, I was laughing when Victoria was calling them washed up bikini models, because it is so true.... I like Maria, but the truth is exactly what Victoria said....

[RMLegend]

Trish was a manager at first she hardly wrestled, these Divas wrestle and make a show of themselfs. Trish trained really hard and was good in the ring eventually. she never acted like somebody she wasnt she knew in the beginning she couldnt wrestle. she learnt and earned her respect in the WWE. she got over with the crowd because she was involved in great storylines and she worked her butt of for the company. she wasnt completly over with the fans in the beginning.

well we dont no what goes on backstage maybe the new divas are working there asses off to they could be doing alot of work so saying that there sluts and they dont work isnt always exactly as it is for example

from: www.24wrestling.com
Letisha (Leticia Cline), the new backstage interview girl, has gotten a lot of respect from her peers because when she was hired, she didn't know too much about wrestling. The story is that she went on the internet and tried to learn as much about professional wrestling as she could.


and she is just the interview girl whos to say that the current divas on the WWE roster arent working and dont deserve some respect

[Frannie]

well we dont no what goes on backstage maybe the new divas are working there asses off to they could be doing alot of work so saying that there sluts and they dont work isnt always exactly as it is for example

from: www.24wrestling.com


and she is just the interview girl whos to say that the current divas on the WWE roster arent working and dont deserve some respect


i havnt called them sluts btw lol.

actually a statment was released on a website i posted it somewere in the womens division section. a male wrestler said this it just never said who.

it basically said that the WWE is like a mens club backstage the women esp the diva seach girls are easy. the men are treated like gods whilst the women are treated like sluts. the girls always have a different male wrestlers on there arm.

ill find the proper statement and post it when i do :)

[CovertFlight]

I disagree with you Dsmith, Test has talent, and needs a push for the ECW World Title

[Frannie]

Relationships between WWE wrestlers and Divas are at an all-time high according to PWTorch.com, with one source saying some move from partner to partner "like it's high school now; week to week it's different."

Maria, for instance, was reportedly involved with Carlito before moving onto a relationship with CM Punk.

One longtime WWE talent actually believes that the backstage atmosphere in WWE could have played a part in Lita's disinterest in continuing with the company.

Says the source, "It's a men's club, even with Steph around. The men are all knights in shining armour and the women are all seen as whores."

[Juan Miguels]

I wonder if steroids will really shrink your dick. The women are whoring because they cant find a WWE bodybuilder to satisfy them.

[Ben]

Nah, he lost hia talent and doesn't desererve any titles, not no more.

[HSM]

Relationships between WWE wrestlers and Divas are at an all-time high according to PWTorch.com, with one source saying some move from partner to partner "like it's high school now; week to week it's different."

Maria, for instance, was reportedly involved with Carlito before moving onto a relationship with CM Punk.

One longtime WWE talent actually believes that the backstage atmosphere in WWE could have played a part in Lita's disinterest in continuing with the company.

Says the source, "It's a men's club, even with Steph around. The men are all knights in shining armour and the women are all seen as whores."

What does that have to do with the divas being given credit for their in-ring work, I will answer, NOTHING

I don't care what they do backstage as long as they are trying to improve and work hard in the ring, the same goes for the guys, that's why I get all over Orton for his backstage antics because he is a lazy worker who expects everything to be handed to him, when in actuallity he is an over-rated hack with a bad backstage attitude, if he actually made an effort to improve I would ignore most of the things he does backstage

[Juan Miguels]

I totally agree. Randy Orton is among the worst wrestlers of all time. He belongs no where near any kind of gold. He doesn't even belong near any kind of ring. He belongs in a club somewhere because he is nothing but a metrosexual.

[Frannie]

What does that have to do with the divas being given credit for their in-ring work, I will answer, NOTHING

I don't care what they do backstage as long as they are trying to improve and work hard in the ring, the same goes for the guys, that's why I get all over Orton for his backstage antics because he is a lazy worker who expects everything to be handed to him, when in actuallity he is an over-rated hack with a bad backstage attitude, if he actually made an effort to improve I would ignore most of the things he does backstage

it was for RML...if u read my post before that one. he said we dont know what they are like backstage.

just like some of the posts on T and A have nothing to do with Divas in ring skill but i dont see ppl responding to that.

[HSM]

I did read your first post, but if you had read RML's post clearly you would have noticed that he was talking about whether or not the new girls were actually working hard and training, not who they were dating

[CovertFlight]

I totally agree. Randy Orton is among the worst wrestlers of all time. He belongs no where near any kind of gold. He doesn't even belong near any kind of ring. He belongs in a club somewhere because he is nothing but a metrosexual.

Lol:tu

[Frannie]

I did read your first post, but if you had read RML's post clearly you would have noticed that he was talking about whether or not the new girls were actually working hard and training, not who they were dating

my bad. lol sorry.

i just wanted ppl to see that the men in the WWE see the women as whores and they dont get the respect they deserve backstage either. thats why i posted the artical and i saw RML had mentioned something about backstage.

[Violet]

I'm not saying all but there is quite a few woman in WWE who are only there just to be involved with playboy or films and don't give two fucks about the wrestling business. Thats why woman like candice michelle don't deserve to be in the business

Kelly Kelly is another example. Once the Playboy and acting offers come around. She'll be out quicker then Ashley getting another injury.

Yeah i agree with UTisNUM1. If a woman dresses like a skank, she deserves to be called a skank.

[rshort17]

I didn't have any idea that WWE's backstage was like that but im not really suprised. It kinda makes me wish Some of the leaders backstage like Undertaker or Kane would straighten this out. I mean no one would wanna mess with these guys in a legit fight

[Visionary]

You can't blame them 100% for the clothes they wear I mean after all it is a form of entertainment and if you watch any Diva dvd (Trish's or Litas etc) you see they have wardrobe workers that have a factor in what they wear on stage.

As for Ashley, Kristal etc there lazy and have no reason to try harder, there on Smackdown. Women on Smackdown = Bra & Pantie matches etc

Why WWE doesn't pare the hopeless Diva's up with Tag Teams or Solo Wrestlers and leave the wrestling to the 3 or 4 that can is beyond me. That way we still get puppies and also time is saved for more important matches like tag team's etc.

[Violet]

I don't know why there can't be both. A proper women's division consisting of 5-6 wrestlers (Nattie, Mickie, Victoria, Beth, Ariel, Jillian) and have 3 or 4 girls for eye candy (Maria, Candice, Ashley, Layla etc.) That way, everyone is happy. I don't care if the girls are there backstage doing interviews etc. I judt don't like them competing in matches against talented women and having them in championship matches.

[Dj Ryu]

+ More Respect for Storm :)

He speaks the truth, after what he wrote it gives me more respect towards the Diva's, to me Diva's were just there to shake their ass, be a wrestler's manager and make the Male viewers go wild ;)
But i didn't realize how much they work their asses off just to entertain us for a couple of minutes, sure the matches are pretty boring ( In my opinion ) but they would have better ring experience than myself.

[Violet]

^Maria and Candice are there to shake their asses, same with Kellyx2. Mickie and Victoria are the one's that deserve respect.

[Dj Ryu]

Just Hope Nattie Neidhart won't be an ass shaker :o

[Violet]

If she is, i hope she leaves. Teach them dicks a lesson.

[Frannie]

^Maria and Candice are there to shake their asses, same with Kellyx2. Mickie and Victoria are the one's that deserve respect.

EXACTLY...i dont know why i have to repect a girl because she can look hot in the ring. i respect a woman who has put the effort in to learn the skill not learning as she goes along they should go to development schools for that.

[Matt]

EXACTLY...i dont know why i have to repect a girl because she can look hot in the ring. i respect a woman who has put the effort in to learn the skill not learning as she goes along they should go to development schools for that.

Really though, they are putting in an effort in the ring, granted they could have trained, but they were offered great contracts, I'm sorry but it's pretty damn stupid to turn down a contract like the one they were offered. Maria & Candice are still young, Victoria and Mickie have more experience, neither of them were all that great when they started out either. And they can't really help what they're told to do, thats why they deserve respect, they do their job, and they're doing what they're told to do pretty well. You don't have to like them, but everyone who gets in the ring deserves respect. So again, we're not saying you should respect them because they look good, you should respect the honest effort they put into the ring, wouldn't you want and feel you deserve respect for trying if you were in their positions?

[Violet]

I wouldn't be in their positions, because i'd refuse to participate in a pointless, most likely rigged competition, for a contract. They obviously don't give a shit about girls like me, who'd literal die to be in the business and girls who train their asses off, so why should i show respect for them? I'd train my ass off like Lita and get in the way she did. That's how i'm going to do it. Not by sending in nude pics of myself either like Kellyx2.

[Matt]

It's easy to say that until you're offered money. Doing it the hard way is fine, but it's not the only route. I don't like Batista, but I respect him for being in the ring, he's really only there because of his muscles, I don't think thats right, but I respect the effort he puts in, they're putting it in an effort. You're problems with the woman's division apply to the men in the form of muscle, we can just deal with it and accept the fact that it's entertainment, WWE's goal is to entertain, you watch it, you can't expect change, if you want womans wrestling, watch SHIMMER or WEW or a female promotion that focuses on wrestling.

[fatman]

women wrestling wost thing ever

[Violet]

^No it's not.


WWE is the only program in Australia unfortunately.

[Frannie]

women wrestling wost thing ever

no its not

[wwefan22]

From her website

http://lufisto.k5grafix.com/html/home.html



January 8th 2007 - Retirement...

Hi everybody,

Unfortunately, there comes a time when your body tells you it’s time to stop. Sometimes, you just won’t listen and sometimes, you just have no more choices to listen and comply…

I’ve been having back pain since October but never did anything about it. I really thought it was something stupid, like simple muscle ache. Then, after every match, I was in pain. Last Saturday was no different as on the first fall I took, my back completely went numb.

I manage to finish the match and drive back home but the next day, things just got worst. As I was doing dead lifts, my back just let go. I heard a click, it burned and felt like my whole bones where squashed… So, I spent more than 14 hours at the emergency…

Two of my vertebras are in bad shape and I’m waiting to know if I need surgery. Of course, I won’t risk anything this time and I will be responsible about this.

Therefore, no more wrestling…

Am I retiring? I don’t like the word retirement because when you wrestle, it’s in your blood and too many people who are “retiring” are back in the ring a while after.

The only thing I can say is that I’m not wrestling anymore, for now. I’ll see what the doctor says, what the results of the CT Scan I’m having tonight will say. Depending if it’s a good or bad news, I will make a decision about my wrestling future in about 3 months.

I unfortunately have to cancel all my bookings and forfeit my CZW Iron-Man championship, which has been my pride and joy.

My career, if we can call it a career, lasted close to 9 years…

Is it over? Only time will tell but I will have to slow down if I do decide to come back. I don’t know if I’ll update this website in the upcoming months. I guess I’ll see how it goes and how I feel …

I’m still dealing with all this so I won’t say more right now. If you are interested in buying some of my gear and boots, most of them are available. I’ll keep just a few in case but that’s about it. DVDs and shirts are also still available if you want to keep some LuFisto souvenirs.

The next three months will be quite challenging. Thank you so much for all the support and love throughout all those wonderful 9 years. I don’t have any regrets as I did more than people expected me to do.

I love you guys so much.

LuFisto xxx


From-Gerweck.net
I'm about to cry:'(

[Neon]

PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING 101: INTRODUCTION TO WHAT IS NOW UNDER THE FAMILY-FRIENDLY MONIKER, "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT"